events/2025-02-26-hwc-europe

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Homebrew Website Club Europe/London was an IndieWeb meetup on Zoom held on 2025-02-26.

Participants

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Notes

  • Book recommendations
    • Same as Ever book
    • Inventing the Renissance book

turning text reference links into blockquotes as part of autolink https://www.kevinmarks.com/mentionquote

https://gifcities.org/?q=indie

  • cookiemonster.gif

https://wikitok.vercel.app/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_edit_wars_on_Wikipedia (actually, this is the one I meant: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Lamest_edit_wars)

  • Readers can present content how they like
  • Kevin demo'd an Instagram reader that looks like Pinterest, made ~a decade ago when Instagram had an API.

https://web.archive.org/web/20120419002042/http://pestagram.com:80/

https://github.com/kevinmarks/Pestagram

  • Content types on AP
    • Images, videos, spoiler tags

Possible Topics

  • enabling /MFA on (1) your email inbox(es), (2) domain registrar account(s), (3) web host(s)
  • who is using what European domain registrar(s) and/or web host(s), and opinions/features?
  • ...
  • Projects in the IndieWeb org on GitHub
    • Usually projects are moved if it is collaborative and has community adoption
    • We encourage people to start a project in their own GitHub / GitLab / code forge / website.
    • We also encourage people to look at existing projects to see what can be improved!
  • Starting collaborative projects
    • Create a repo, start with a statement of intent of what you want to build / your vision
    • Share with others who may be interested!
  • Jump into a new project!
  • Finding motivation to start new projects
    • A project you are thinking about for a while may be a good sign you want to make it
    • Setting a direction for yourself -- "I want to walk that way; let's start figuring out things that are involved and the steps I can take."
    • inspiration that strikes late at night and won't let you go
    • Starting small and building something for yourself.
    • If you have an end goal it is easy to tie yourself into the goal and lose track of what it is you wanted to accomplish.
    • Don't focus on the bridge five steps away when walking through the forest; focus on what's in front of you -- the immediate thing.
    • No premature optimisations.
    • You could focus on approaching projects that you can do in a day.
    • Working on something when the idea comes, even if it's late at night.

https://crispsandwi.ch/@mattround/114069930133388685 β€œReminder for the web devs out there: if you can make a website, you can make a webgame All of the 2D stuff on my site just uses ordinary HTML/CSS/JS, eg the items in Styscraper are DIVs with background images, there's no framework or special renderer. Browsers are a lot faster nowadays!”

https://vole.wtf/styscraper/ https://vole.wtf/british-seaside/

  • "analysis paralysis"
  • Layers in software development: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OSI_model
  • When you build software, you could create an API for someone to use or make a UI that people can use
  • Frameworks take time to learn
  • Live updating pages
  • world cafe chat on IRC in internet cafes in 1994/95
  • the magic of getting an interaction from somebody who is across the planet
    • there is a lot to explore here from a deliberate design perspective
    • mental health and joyful experiences should be core considerations in tool design

Notifications

  • push_notification#Distraction
  • we (IndieWeb) can focus on mental health and more joyful experiences, rather than services who want to just get your time in front of their app or your passive surveillance data
  • benji is working on an RSS feed for the IndieWeb Movie Club and IndieWeb Carnival
    • Has a demo working on localhost right now
    • Building websites that interpret raw data and add functionality, etc.
  • "mashup" web concept
  • "make stuff out of the web"
    • Open data
    • Having a personal website where you talk to the world is valuable
  • Communicating URLs to people; the joy of being able to say "go to artlung.com/books" for example that lists the books you looked at.
    • WordPress auto-redirects (like http://artlung.com/pizza)
    • Being able to open your website to answer a question
      • Others may look something up in their notes; we can look things up on our websites.
      • People IRL may not be interested in your website, but it's still useful to one's self.
      • Digital gardening is related to the idea of all the slash pages we have been talking about.
  • A reader could broadcast the number of subscribers on a reader
    • This could be done in a user agent

Scraping various home pages for lists of links to turn into a feed - good or bad idea?

  • Inoreader has a feature that lets you manually create a feed for a page if one isn't found
  • js;dr may be a problem
  • Links may be wrapped (like the ones on https://news.google.com/home?hl=en-GB&gl=GB&ceid=GB:en)
  • There may be a social media account with RSS support (i.e. Mastodon) for a website that doesn't have an RSS feed
  • Instagram is hostile to the web.
    • There are many features that are technically possible that Instagram disables / doesn't offer (no feeds, etc.); the reason why many open web technologies are not embraced is because it's not in their interest.
    • The IG app supports DMs
    • Q: Can you bookmark the URL that lists your most recent DMs?
    • Q: Can you bookmark deep links to chats?
    • "Why is Instagram limited in annoying ways?": answering this question in a way that gets people thinking about the nature of social networks.
  • How can we help the younger generation learn more about RSS / open web standards?
  • Send people to indieweb.org if they are tired of the status quo :D
  • Not everyone has the tools that we all have.
  • Experiences of using Google Drive because we have to for a collaborative project, not because we want to; there being few intuitive experiences.
  • Assumptions that someone uses a tool (i.e. asking for someone's IG account to exchange contact info, asking someone to write in a Google Doc who doesn't have an account / doesn't want to use the service).
  • Complexities of installing Etherpad.
  • "@abc" doesn't include the context of the service that someone uses (did the author assume that someone would look tem up on IG?); what if the author doesn't have the same handle on all services. As more social medias pop up, it is hard to guarantee you can use the same name.
  • Configuration as a way for someone to design a solution toward their needs.
    • Software that can do many things can do the one thing someone wants.
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2013 12-18 β€’ 12-04 β€’ 11-20
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